Posts by Crisis of Conscience

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10 good reasons why celebrating birthdays should be allowed

by bluecanary in

i cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.

much of the information was borrowed from this thread.

if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.

Crisis of Conscience

Count me in! I'm ready to cut some heads off for my wife's and my next birthday!

Thanks for the great thread and ideas!

CoC

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Bethel Rules

by brotherdan in

this was brought up just in passing on another thread.

but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..

Bethel Rules

by brotherdan in

this was brought up just in passing on another thread.

but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..

Crisis of Conscience

We DEFINITELY had to have crossed paths! I'll send you a PM.

CoC

Edited: PM Sent

Also, anybody notice how many hits this thread has already? Over 1,000, in a short period of time, 19 hrs. Is mama watching?

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Bethel Rules

by brotherdan in

this was brought up just in passing on another thread.

but i wanted to see if there are any bethelites or ex bethelites that remember some of the crazy rules we had to follow when we were there..

Crisis of Conscience

Hey brotherdan. I was at Patterson also around that period. But it seems I left just before you did. Perhaps we have crossed paths.

I also went swing dancing a few times. But I wasn't skilled enough to be photographed. LOL Probably a good thing.

CoC

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J.R.Brown

by Mall Cop in

it's been very quiet concerning him.

anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?

he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.

Crisis of Conscience

Appreciate that thenoblelodge !! I was browsing a little but didn't look that hard. I hope it can be found.

CoC

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Excuses, Excuses, Excuses.......................About Jehovah

by Crisis of Conscience in

i've had some people in the congregation lately try to give me pep talks to encourage me not to give up.. when i mention (not to everyone of course) some of the things that bother me about the org, many times they can't come up with a legitimate answer so they make up an excuse.. for example, i mention the double standards that i saw at bethel as well as the lack of love in certain brothers.

i get a blank stare and then an, "oh, that's because jehovah allows imperfect in the org.

but he'll clear things up when it's time.".

Crisis of Conscience

JW answer to the question from bez I wonder why it takes soooo long tho for certain things to come out...why is it left to go on and on and on before Jehovah steps in to sort it out?

"Uh, umm, eh,.........................To prove Jehovah's sovereignty!!"

CoC

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Ray Franz books hard to find

by mamalove in

so i guess his books are collectors items!

if anyone has any they would sell me or loan me, please pm me.

thanks!.

Crisis of Conscience

http://www.commentarypress.com/Publication/English.html

The following thread had some links. Not sure how good they are.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/151375/1/Crisis-of-Conscience-as-an-e-book

CoC

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Theocratic Warfare / Lying JWs

by AuntBee in

it's one thing to read about this on paper.

but it really hits home after you've experienced it numerous times!

this is a real thing, and it's quite startling to find such an abundance of lying in 'the truth'!!

Crisis of Conscience

wasblind If your own magazines are telling you that you are under no obligation to tell the whole truth

how do you think they will treat you as members?

WOW!! Excellent point. I never thought about it that way. Thanks!

This thread has inspired me to ask, who decides who's entitled to hear the truth?

Bet the WTS would have a field day answering that!

CoC

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Excuses, Excuses, Excuses.......................About Jehovah

by Crisis of Conscience in

i've had some people in the congregation lately try to give me pep talks to encourage me not to give up.. when i mention (not to everyone of course) some of the things that bother me about the org, many times they can't come up with a legitimate answer so they make up an excuse.. for example, i mention the double standards that i saw at bethel as well as the lack of love in certain brothers.

i get a blank stare and then an, "oh, that's because jehovah allows imperfect in the org.

but he'll clear things up when it's time.".

Crisis of Conscience

Exactly! At times I've seen the headshakes just before they answer. The one that says, "I don't know but I wish I had an answer."

But what comes out........an excuse! What a surprise! But I strive not to disrespect anyone for that for I too thought that way once. It just makes me think that I sounded completely ridiculous in replying that way also.

CoC

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Excuses, Excuses, Excuses.......................About Jehovah

by Crisis of Conscience in

i've had some people in the congregation lately try to give me pep talks to encourage me not to give up.. when i mention (not to everyone of course) some of the things that bother me about the org, many times they can't come up with a legitimate answer so they make up an excuse.. for example, i mention the double standards that i saw at bethel as well as the lack of love in certain brothers.

i get a blank stare and then an, "oh, that's because jehovah allows imperfect in the org.

but he'll clear things up when it's time.".

Crisis of Conscience

I agree cult classic . And I respectfully will listen to an opinion/explanation.

But when the response is, "Uh, umm, well, (quick! think of something!).............", it's just really bothersome.

And an excuse generally follows.

CoC